6 great questions along the way

I will paraphrase some very good questions that readers and others have asked.

Since we are using face masks now, do I need to disinfect it when I come home with Lysol or other disinfectant?

In order to conserve and be able to reuse masks at the local hospitals, they put them in a brown paper bag. They are able to reuse them for up to a week without having to change to a new mask. This is a well-established practice at some of the best clinical centers in the US.

Interestingly a small study from China looked at masks, face shields, and shoes of providers from 70 interactions with COVID-19 patients. They found no virus on the masks, face shields and shoes from any of those interactions after the doctor, nurse, or cleaning staff left the room. They did not look at gloves or gowns as those were discarded in the room and did not leave the area.

So put you mask in a brown paper bag, roll it up like a lunch bag, and reuse it for up to a week. You could use Lysol, but I don’t know if it would destroy some of the weaving in the mask. Even Littleton Hospital is not disinfecting their masks with anything but a brown paper bag. I suspect the bag provides a dry and water absorbing environment to disinfect by drying.

One of my associates is using a UV sterilizer for CPAP tubing and masks to sterilize their office masks.

What about gloves?

Cotton or even leather gloves are preferred to latex or rubber gloves. Some small lab studies have shown that the latex or rubber gloves allow the virus-laden droplets to hang around on the surface longer that cotton or other water-absorbent material.

Presumably the water-absorbing material disperses the water droplets better and allows the virus to die when exposed to the air.

Can you also put them in a brown paper bag and reuse them? I don’t know of anyone doing that since the hospitals use disposable rubber gloves, but it makes sense to me.

What about taking ibuprofen or any other NSAIDs?

There is really no evidence that ibuprofen and other NSAIDs place people at higher risk for getting the infection or for developing the severe lung problems with COVID-19.

We do know that if people are taking ibuprofen or other NSAIDs AND become dehydrated with ANY illness, kidney injury can be greatly intensified. As to NSAIDs causing or placing one at risk for increased lung injury, there is no evidence for that in this viral illness or others observed in the past. Time will have to tell us whether the NSAIDs affect people differently with this virus compared to others.

So the safe thing to do is stop your NSAID if you start to get sick and switch to acetaminophen/Tylenol for aches, pains, and fevers.

If I start to get symptoms, should I quarantine myself at home?

Yes BUT you must assume everyone in your home has had significant exposure and all must remain quarantined for the two weeks, including visitors who have had anything other than the most cursory of contact, like standing outside the front door to deliver a package or just say hi.

IF you test positive, then you and those in your home must remain quarantined for 2 weeks AFTER your last infectious symptom resolves. Healthy individuals can go to the store with mask, glove, and physical distancing practices, but must remain home if there are any symptoms.

What about the young people who are less likely to get the illness? Do they need to practice physical distancing and stay at home practices?

I was young once and, despite what I would like to think now, quite stupid and not invincible. I say this as a disclaimer to not be a pot calling a kettle black.

But the short answer to the question is a RESOUNDING YES.

Multiple anecdotal stories share what appears to be a not uncommon disregard for the current recommendations among teens and young adults. They may not get as ill or as frequently ill as older adults, but there is plenty of data showing that they sure can spread the virus as well as any older individual. We have seen several cases where the primary case in a home was from a teen or young adult who lived in or visited the home.

So implore your young adult friends and family to be careful and play along with the rest of us.

What about exercise?

Definitely continue to exercise, but don’t go to the gym. Hopefully all gyms should be closed by now, but being in an environment where everyone is breathing heavily and touching everything is not prudent.

A controlled study in a lab found that the radius of water droplet spread from a heavily breathing athlete was 10 feet and not 6 feet. However this was in a controlled space that did not mimic the outdoors. Still it adds reason to avoid the gym or workout rooms for now.

If you are running behind or down-wind from a heavily exercising person, I would suggest at least a 50 foot distance just to be safe. If it’s even a mild wind, stop and wait 5 minutes before resuming your run. Or really just run somewhere else.

Dr. Gipson

10 thoughts on “6 great questions along the way

  1. 1) What are your thoughts on biking in general?
    2) Biking with another person-If advised, what distance should be kept?
    3) Should I ride the Cherry Creek trail or something less trafficked?

    Thank you!

    1. Biking is fine and cycling with another individual is fine as long as you ride side by side. Otherwise one or more of you will be downwind and breathing potentially infected exhaled air. If you must ride single file, then maintaining a 50 foot separation would be recommended. Certainly do not cycle with anyone even remotely sick.

      Knowing the isolation habits of your riding partner(s) is probably the most important aspect to consider before cycling with others. If they and you have been diligent, then the risk is low.

      To be safe though, if you travel to a trail head to start, everyone should take individual cars and no handling of each other’s bikes or personal items.

      Lastly the Cherry Creek trail should be fine and as safe as anywhere else outdoor.

  2. If one of your patients tested positive would you treat with hydroxychloroquine. If so immediately or at what stage?

    1. The state pharmacy board essentially mandated that pharmacists are not to dispense hydrochloroquine except to hospitalized individuals. Most hydrochloroquine has been confiscated by the Feds or hospitals, so an outpatient prescription is likely useless.

      Although unproven at this time, if it were available, I would give it to positive individuals at the time of diagnosis, as long as there was not contraindication for that person.

  3. Thank you for the mask info, Dr. Gipson. Another mask question……if I’m only wearing it for an hour or two twice a week when i go for groceries or supplies, do i still need a new mask every week? Thanks!

  4. Hi Dr. Gipson,
    When you place your mask in a paper bag, can you put 2 masks in 1 brown paper bag up to 1 week or do you need 1 brown paper bag for each mask? Thank you, Natalie

    1. The hospitals are using one brown bag per care giver for one week. However I suspect for those of us using masks irregularly, having two masks in a bag would be fine.

      Also if you are using your mask irregularly, up to one month of use would be fine if they are stored in a brown bag between use. Even in the hospital environment where the masks are used constantly during a 12 hour shift, a week of use with storage in a brown bag works well.

  5. I am an ultrasound tech and wondered what type of PPE we should be using when doing our job in such close proximity to the patient? I understand the virus can be shed in any body fluid and we are exposed to certain body fluids.

    1. Your employer should have standards for PPE protection during ultrasound exams, and I would check with them. As a general rule, the more the better.

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